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Comments about "Mirrielees flood evicts 14 students"
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The Daily is mistaken on how fire sprinklers work, in reference to the statement "Enough smoke had accumulated in the kitchen area to set off the fire alarm and emergency sprinklers in the room". Smoke does not cause activation of sprinklers; sprinklers are heat activated, typically at 155°. Students should know that the amount of water utilized by a sprinkler is much less than a fire engine having to come and put it-- it probably prevented a lot more damage than the inconvenience the Daily feels compelled to report on. At 3:19am in the morning, when students are reluctant to evacuate during a fire alarm, we must credit Stanford for ensuring our buildings are up to fire code-- if sprinklers were not installed, this fire could have been a lot worse.
Stanford housing is certainly facing challenges this quarter. I do hope that they will consider financial rebates on housing costs to those students who have been displaced. It is not fair that they are suffering major disruptions to their lives and still paying full-bore housing fees.
started the fire should compensate those affected by his negligence
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“It was an honest mistake,” he said. “It could have happened to anybody. Mistakes happen. We’re all human.”
No, it's not an "honest mistake" that "could have happened to anybody." If you make "mistakes" like leaving oil unattended in a pan long enough for flames to start, you should not be living in Mirrielees. Have Stern Dining cook for you instead.
Maybe Student Housing needs to have mandatory training for those living in dorms with stoves, but it's definitely not some kind of accident that "just happens."
Actually, "concerned", the firefighter on the scene told me that even if TJ had been there to watch the pan, there's no guarantee that he would have been able to stop it. These things can happen so suddenly, he said, that even if TJ was there, to put it out, there would have been enough smoke to set off the sprinklers (which, Mark, according to Jim Cadena, the Mirrielees RF, are smoke activated, not heat activated).
And Mark, nobody is upset the sprinklers came on like they should; we only wish they had turned off like they were supposed to.
Wait, so you're telling me that any time we use cooking oil, there's a chance there will be a fire and we won't be able to stop it...therefore, we might as well not watch it?
Stanford Bubble anyone?
While I feel sorry for the students who have been displaced as a result of the fire, I should point out that the fire could have caused a lot more property damage and possibly casualties had it not been for the timely activation of the fire sprinkler (which, for the record, is heat activated). I am sure many of us have heard of injuries and deaths in fires that occurred in buildings without fire sprinkler protection. The University Fire Marshal's Office located at the Environmental Health and Safety Department offers quarterly training classes on Fire Safety and Use of Portable Fire Extinguishers. Go to Axess and sign up for the class (EHS-3700) in STARS.
Pra, I'm sorry, but Jim is completely wrong about sprinklers being smoke activated. Look it up anywhere (yes, even on Wikipedia...). The fact the fire was bad enough to activate a sprinkler is downright scary.
Quit arguing with Pra. Can't you see the man has gone through enough already?
I myself have accidentally set an oil fire before, and in my panic made the mistake of throwing water on it.
It's an easy enough mistake to make, and we should all just be thankful that no one was hurt.
1. Put spring rolls in hot oil
2. Walk away
3. ????????????
4. 5 rooms get flooded
5. Crazy monkey sex
Bottom lines:
The fire-containment mechanisms worked and no one got
hurt -- let's be thankful!! Water damage is a fair
exchange for zero injuries.
People make mistakes; one hopes they learn from them ...
IOW, don't get too mad at TJ unless he does it again.
Hello,
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Check out the website at www.stovetopfirestop.com.
Thank you!
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Hello Everyone: "The easiest fire to put out is the one that never happened." We manufacture a product call Safe-T-element(R) that helps PREVENT the fires from happening in the first place and we have thousands installed in the university and college market. The "stovetop firestop" as mentioned above is again, another suppression system. For it to work or for any suppression system to work THERE IS ALREADY A FIRE. Safe-T-element (our product) helps prevent a fire from happening in the first place. Feel free to call me at 905 712 2061 X 230 or feel free to email me at lcomber@pioneeringtech.com Thank you for your commitment to fire safety. This fire could have been PREVENTED !!